Man, I wish I could vote for some sane republicans but as its turning out their complicity or silence on Jan 6 is making me believe that entire party is unhinged like Trump.
Yeah, its almost as if Republicans in both chambers just dont even have proper policy proposals anymore. All they do is obstructionism and grand standing.
it's not clever to go out of your way to piss off the base of the last guy from your team that won. clearly the democrats understand that, seeing as we are currently experiencing Obama's third term.
Tired of this dont piss the crowd who lost line of thinking. Well, the crowd who won in a fair election is also pissed because the side who lost doesn't want to accept their defeat and move on.
Hello Russiagate, Impeachments ... how long did those go on.
Increasing trust in the outcome would go a long way. How about trying to make the election more verifiable. Put it some real biometric features into mail out ballots. Instead we get, no id required to vote. Doesn't really build trust.
There was simply no fraud at the scale of what you seem to be intending. Most claims of fraud were investigated multiple times (AZ, MI, WI ...) and no evidence has come up which would prove baseless claims of Trump et al. Most states where Trump et al are claiming fraud already have voting ID laws. Just because your guy did not win does not mean the process in not trust worthy.
It absolutely is not trustworthy. Evidence by a third of democrats not trusting the results.
There's no biometrics in the ballots to match them to a unique voter once it leaves the envelope.
So you can't audit it back to a person, best you can do is recount the same result. Hence why I think mail in ballot results are suspect in any country.
I'm not American, so I'm not swayed by part allegiance. What I did see is 3 am mail in ballot reversals in multiple cities at ridiculous high skewed percentages.
A wildly popular president, the most popular in history, 81 million votes, that somehow is barely polling in the 30%s.
Winning the fewest precincts in history yet breaking record for the most votes.
More black people voting in record numbers much higher than for Obama in downtown Detroit for him.
It smells like a Putin election. Except Putin is actually popular in his country unlike Biden.
> I'm not American, so I'm not swayed by part allegiance. What I did see is 3 am mail in ballot reversals in multiple cities at ridiculous high skewed percentages.
Maybe since you're not American, you're missing a little nuance about the situation. First of all, mail-in-ballots are counted last in many places. Sometimes, it's by law (like in PA, where mail-in-ballot counting cannot start until after election day). This is why you saw a lot of 3am mail-in-vote counting.
The reason why it took so long to count those votes as opposed to other years is due to the ongoing global pandemic. Because of the pandemic, voters were encouraged to vote by mail. However, the President had spent months before the election claiming that mail-in-voting was rigged, and encouraged his supporters to vote exclusively in person. This is why the mail-in-vote percentages were so skewed toward Democrats.
Therefore the dynamic on election night was that all the in-person votes were counted first, and they gave the impression that Trump had won. When the mail-in-ballots were counted, they were in some cases able to overtake the in-person vote tally, which caused Biden to win in those cases.
> A wildly popular president
Trump was not wildly popular. Again, this may be a perception you had from abroad. In reality, Trump did not win the popular vote the first time he was elected. He lost the House during his first two years in office, and lost the House again and the Senate in 2020, as well as his own election. While it's true he got 74 million votes, his opponent was more popular, and more importantly won the electoral vote, and that's why he's president today. Also in America, our population is highly concentrated in cities. The 500 counties won by Biden account for 70% of the US population. The 2500 counties won by Trump only account for 30% of the population.
All of the other points you raise are just the result of this being an election with record turnout across the country. I just don't understand what you could possibly infer by more black voters voting for Biden than Obama. What exactly is that supposed to prove? There's really nothing about the demographics or statistics of the 2020 election that point to fraud.
You just live in a completely different world. One side sees Jan 6 as an insurrection, the other side sees it as a modern day Reichstag fire. Republicans cannot actually abandon the latter narrative, because so much of their base see the election as actually stolen. Anecdotally, I have friends that voted for Biden and still don't believe the election was legitimate. The failures of the the current administration and their response to Jan 6 is only supporting this narrative for those that buy into it. A fortified capital for months after an election of the most popular president ever elected dies not inspire confidence. The blatantly political use of the DOJ to slap the label of terrorists on concerned parents does not inspire confidence. Unconstitutional federal mandates being imposed does not inspire confidence. Even if you are horrified by what happened j6, you're looking for sane republicans to vote for.
I think that if the current administration continues on it's trajectory, people will simply care less and less about j6. Because their everyday lives are being impacted more and more by hostile policies.
Keeping prisoners held in inhumane conditions while awaiting trial is also not helping. Even Democrats are calling this issue out. It was sickening when we did it to foreigners in gitmo, and it's sickening now.
I wish we saw some honest attempts and transparency at figuring out what happened, but... without that- the schism is only widening.
Here you will see that the FBI counter terrorism team was spurred by that Oct 4 letter to start tracking potential threats that concerned parents posed. So no, he didn't technically call them terrorists, he just had the counter-terrorism team activated to look for terrorists.
They weren't tracking concerned parents. They were investigating threats. Unless your counterpoint is that being a parent makes you immune from scrutiny the FBI did exactly what it was supposed and did not label anybody anything unless they found a credible threat.
The NBSA sent a letter to the DOJ asking them to look into school board meetings around the country, saying that the parent protests were "equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism."
The NBSA has since apologized and removed the letter from their website.
Politifact responds by saying the word "terrorist" does not appear in the memo, thus the "domestic terrorist" claim is false. They created a straw man and then defeated it. Yeesh.
The NSBA labelled specific threats as equivalent to terrorism. Not differing opinions. Making threats can absolutely be equivalent to terrorism. Being a "concerned parent". And the accusation of this thread was against the government made this analogy. The NSBA is not a government agency. The DOJ is and the DOJ explicitly said that they were only investigating threats. Which is exactly what they're supposed to do.
"While spirited debate about policy matters is protected under our Constitution, that protection does not extend to threats of violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views,” Garland wrote in a memo
That's what Garland said per your article. The only ones who mentioned terrorism was the NSBA and they didn't accuse anyone of it, they suggested some of the threats they'd received could be equivalent to terrorism. So, no Polifact is exactly correct here and the NY Post agrees.