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by nexxer 1610 days ago
He's had covid twice, once in June 2020 and now in December 2021, a good example of immunity by infection not being worth much.
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This is illogical.

Did he die? Did he suffer severe symptoms? No.

What makes this different than a vaccinated person contracting the virus and having mild/no symptoms?

You took a vaccine that has not been updated since it was created to target the Alpha variant. He caught a previous variant, and both of you are not protected from contracting omicron. However, both of you are at far lower risk of severe illness due to the previous exposure your immune systems have to the virus. The only difference is the payload. He was exposed to an entire virus, and therefore his antibodies/t-cells are less targeted and broader. You were exposed only to the spike protein which coats the virus, and therefore have a highly targeted immune response that is less broad. So what?

The results are what matter. This is just religious posturing. You want everyone to take the same sacrament as you, regardless of outcomes.

There are multiple studies with massive cohorts (the Israeli study has 2.5 MILLION people in it) that show that this virus is TYPICAL in the sense that when someone catches it, then clears it, the immune system is behind this. Previously infected people were proven in this study to have superior immunity to delta than fully vaccinated people, and the margins were not small.

But sure, ignore that and focus on your sample size of 1 to confirm your priors.

Looks like people are so overcompensating antivaxxers that logic went out the window. Everyone is so polarized that I’m losing faith in returning to normal life. And honestly, both sides are appearing to be equally bad, equally engulfed in their own black and white world.
Most people are pretty calm about it. It's just there's very noisy fringe elements who are dramatically overrepresented online.

It blows my mind how many otherwise smart people think that online comments are remotely representative of the real world. How many times have you seen a prominent online personality see racist/misogynistic comments from a handful of trolls and then claim that "racists are everywhere!"

It's the same with this.

Frankly, the biggest source of derangement is fear that is utterly detached from reality. Gallup's polling has revealed that 40% of self-identified Democrats think that 50% of people who catch COVID require hospitalization. The rest were slightly less wrong, but still far, far higher than the reality. The actual number is between 1-5%. It's the mirror image of immediately after 9/11, when self-identified Republicans dramatically overestimated the terrorism threat.

Also if We believe that He got it in December, that is probably a lie to not get the vaccine and enter Australia.