[nickpp]

Here in Europe we are running software tools and platforms written in the US, owned by USA-companies, on hardware designed in the US. And the people who created all that include lots of bright ex-Europeans.

What do you find hilarious about that?

[azernik]

And all those American tools would not work without East Asian (mostly Taiwanese and South Korean) hardware. Tech is global, and that doesn't mean every part of the industry is everywhere.

[anthk]

Without some European hardware the US would do nothing.

[nickpp]

True, we're not completely out of the loop. But let's not fool ourselves: we are far from running the show. And with an attitude like this we will be left watching how progress and innovation will keep coming from the US, driven by our own best and brightest emigrated there.

[pmlnr]

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Same for hardware. Europe is quite big on embedded, think of Siemens just as an example.