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by austinheap 1614 days ago
Optimizing for people who want to side load ~and~ cannot click the build button in Xcode seems wild to me. (No disrespect!)

It’s identical though in that <when one side loads> one is <completely disconnect from the ecosystem of the device manufacturer>.

Re: side loading binaries/APKs on my actual phone that’s logged into my actual bank account? Hard pass. There’s a time and place for lax security. This is what air gapping is for.

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> Optimizing for people who want to side load ~and~ cannot click the build button in Xcode seems wild to me. (No disrespec

When you personally limit sideloading to be "I compile the app and manage a personal security chain to keep it active" it may seem wild, that's not what the vast majority of Android sideloading/3rd party stores is though. Xcode, beyond requiring installation, requires a macOS install to run it on. There are other ways to compile iOS apps, each even less accessible to users or distribution by companies. And again: the obvious statement that the vast majority of revenue generating apps on the App Store are not open source.

Even amongst the Android tech nerds 3rd party stores like F-Droid are popular because users don't want to compile their open source apps constantly... and there are even less requirements around compiling Android apps than iOS apps!

> It’s identical though in that <when one side loads> one is <completely disconnect from the ecosystem of the device manufacturer>.

Not true, sideloading apps on Android means loading them from a different source not disconnecting them from Google services or the Android ecosystem as a whole. It of course allows for that if it's what you're after but it's not limited in such a scope.

> Re: side loading binaries/APKs on my actual phone that’s logged into my actual bank account? Hard pass. There’s a time and place for lax security. This is what air gapping is for.

On Android sideloading is being able to pick which app sources you trust, even if that means "not Google". That could mean "I compiled it myself on an air gapped computer" to you, "I loaded it from a 3rd party store" to another, and "I downloaded it from the developers site" to a third. Which you personally choose is irrelevant as each user gets to pick their allowed sources so it can fit any user's need.

> Don't forget that you need a Mac.

Anything that can run LLVM can side load.

Oh, so Apple freely distributes all the iOS libraries now, too?
Don't forget that you need a Mac.