[jvanderbot]

Well, the birds aren't going to fix climate change.

I can't speak for the women you know, but the women I know in their 20s-30s tell me they aren't thinking about children at all probably thanks to the empowerment of women of the last 100 years.

Over my life, I've heard all kinds of excuses for all people to not consider children until they are in their late 30s or 40s, then it's a rush. I did the same.

I'm not sure it's climate change.

[KennyBlanken]

Most people I know are not having children because they don't have the economic stability to do so. Housing, individual low/middle income tax burden, cost of living, stagnated wages over the last several decades for all but the top 25%.

[jvanderbot]

Let me tell you one thing I've learned: There's never ever a good time to have children.

[lotsofpulp]

I imagine raising children is much easier if you can afford round the clock nannies.

Or even just retired physically able grandparents a few doors down who can help serve as a redundancy.

[jvanderbot]

Maybe, but man, money can't help you be a good parent.

You're tired, at work, and not part of their day-to-day life. It'd almost be easier to be 20 and have mom/dad still around and just start career at 35. Hell, I practically started my career at 35 and have nothing to show for the delay!

[tamaharbor]

My wife and I are those grandparents, and frankly we don’t want the job.

[klipt]

What's funny is if you're completely broke and have kids, there are tons of government benefits designed to keep you afloat. But if you have a little too much money to qualify for those benefits, you'll feel like you'll never have money for kids.

[adamrezich]

yeah I've noticed that the antinatalists never seem to be saying, "man, I really really want to have kids, it's one of if not the most important driving forces in my life... but the threat of climate change looms ever-present, so it would be irresponsible to bring my heirs into this fallen Earth!"—it usually if not always seems to be a post-hoc excuse for a decision they've already made, or at the very least, a justification to move off the middle of the fence toward "no" instead of "yes." if anyone knows of anyone who's written something that contradicts this I would love to read it.