[Feint1]

That’s a detail that’s not really important to the point being made.

I know that the Americans have a creation myth where they see the British as unspeakably evil and Americans as an oppressed people, but the reality is that the situation was very messy and there were differing views on all sides.

The fact is that American independence actually had some sympathy among the British establishment. This made the Treaty of Paris possible, which made American Independence legal and recognised internationally. There is no longer a disagreement about the status of the United States because of this.

There is no such support for Taiwanese independence in China and I cannot see them ever recognising a Taiwanese State, no matter how badly they lose a war. Without Chinese recognition i cant see Taiwan ever getting much recognition internationally.

[ekianjo]

> There is no such support for Taiwanese independence in China

How can there ever be since China is a totallitarian state with complete control of information and repression of dissidents? They have setup the game to have a consensus that everyone else is Evil and they are the only ones in the right.

[blockwriter]

Do we? I think our creation myth maintains that the English were irretrievably stuffy, and that’s pretty much good enough for all of us. I never saw them as irretrievably evil, just comical really.