[ryanSrich]

This looks cool. I’ve been looking for a more permanent replacement for Roam. Everything I’ve tried so far (Obsidian, Logseq, Athens, Mem, etc.) have all been either clones, or just small improvements. I have yet to see something that grabs me in the same way Roam did years ago (block refs was an aha moment).

My other must have feature is mobile, which it looks like you have covered. I haven’t tried Clover yet, but do you have interlinking and block references? I assume so as that’s a pretty basic core functionality of a note taking tool now, but I understand a product is always a work in progress.

Also, do you have migration tools for importing existing notes? I have 75k pages, and that number grows by 20-100 daily, so it’s a big ask to abandon that.

Anyway, congrats on the launch.

[attasi]

Hey there, We don’t have block referencing in the same way Roam does it… yet. We allow you to copy a block link and paste it which will create a link to the block with text preview. We hope to add improved support for this soon.

A 75k page import is quite the load. We have bulk markdown import but that may test its limits. How would you ideally perform that and where are you importing from?

[ryanSrich]

Could be markdown, json, or edn right now. Ideally an api integration to other tools (Roam, Notion, etc.) to preserve as much structure as possible, but I understand that’s a long shot.

[scrollaway]

Do you support importing from Notion?

[porker]

If Roam grabbed you, why are you looking for a permanent replacement?

[ryanSrich]

No mobile app. It was promised years ago, and they’ve been silent on it since. Their mobile experience right now is nearly unbearable.

[attasi]

Would love some details on your device type and what about the app in unbearable. There’s plenty of room for improvement and we’d love to fix up whatever is affecting your experience.

[ryanSrich]

Device type: iPhone 12 Pro. Latest iOS.

It’s really about not having the controls to do the things I normally do on a phone. A few examples:

- checking checkboxes is a nightmare. 7/10 times I attempt to check a checkbox on mobile it thinks I want to edit the block (assuming it’s because the touch points are too small - a native app would give better controls over explicitly editing certain parts of a block).

- reference brackets always produce something like this [[[something]] with the extra “[“. No idea why this happens, but it’s really annoying to type out [[, start typing my text, then get [[[ and have to manually move my cursor (which is already cumbersome on iOS) to delete the extra bracket.

- copying and pasting is easily my most used feature on mobile for almost any app. Copying in Roam on mobile is very unreliable. Sometimes text is selected, other times an entire block (which doesn’t actually produce a copy to my clipboard when I copy) is selected. A mobile app (or I guess a pwa could do the same) would allow for something like a copy button.

- lots of other small little quirks that I’m less concerned about: having to double click to create a new block, mobile menu bar is partially cutoff, etc.