This is a key point of discussion. You and OP probably have very different definitions of value; you can be 100% right from your perspective and 100% wrong from theirs. And if that's the case, you need to unify your definitions of value before you can discuss the merits of anything built on top of that definition. Or just agree to disagree.
Frankly I find it hard to do, when depending on who you’re talking to, the intended utility is not even definitive (e.g. a currency vs a “store of value”). Maybe this points at something larger.
This is a key point of discussion. You and OP probably have very different definitions of value; you can be 100% right from your perspective and 100% wrong from theirs. And if that's the case, you need to unify your definitions of value before you can discuss the merits of anything built on top of that definition. Or just agree to disagree.