[dragontamer]

My point: compulsory vaccination laws are legal and have been upheld by the supreme court. I dare you to find a proper legal counterexample.

[aserdf]

your original comment was that the state has a right to forcibly vaccinate citizens. i am simply contending that was not a result of jacobson v ma.

[dragontamer]

> - What level of state-sponsored violence is justifiable to further reduce that risk?

This is the line I'm responding to.

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You know damn well that libertarians do this bullshit when playing with "use of force" language in these discussion.

A fine is "government use of force" to a libertarian. I'd rather not get stuck in the weeds over such details. But you're trying to pin me from the other side, and I don't appreciate it.