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by sramov 5395 days ago
Why do you think so? Not all sites are created equal. And Pinboard is definitely on the lean side.

Try hosting a cluster of Magento 'daily deal' sites on Amazon infrastructure, with shared storage and isolated RDS instances for each region. You end up with 15-20k $ per month for god damned bloated magento installs.
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mibbit 5395 days ago
...then don't use magento.

What I said was that for the functionality pinboard provides, and the number of users using it, the hosting costs are extremely high.

If the hosting costs are high because of inefficient software, or bad architecture decisions, then those should be changed.

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patio11 5395 days ago
If the hosting costs are high because of inefficient software, or bad architecture decisions, then those should be changed.

If anyone here believes this, make your best estimate as to how many man-months you need for a re-architecture and how many hundreds of dollars you'll save in hosting costs, then do the division to get your effective hourly rate. I'll pay you that plus 50% for contract programming work.

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mibbit 5395 days ago
In the example, the current hosting is $24k/yr. If that can be slashed to $2.4k/yr, you've saved $21.6k a year in hosting.

For $21.6k/yr I'd say it's worth a week or two re-architecting.

Yes, it's a different game if you're profitable and $21.6k is negligible, but if you're a startup you should be spending time to optimize things.

The other point is one of scaling. If you're paying $2k/mo to support 15k users, when you scale to 15m users, you could be paying $2m/mo unless you fix things early on.

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adambyrtek 5395 days ago
What makes you think that in "a week or two" you are able to cut costs by a factor of ten without sacrificing performance and reliability?
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mattmanser 5395 days ago
Well, there's a lot of people here expressing surprise at the cost of hosting a small user base of simple data in a not complicated problem domain.

It looks an order of magnitude too expensive to us, there's probably some simple thing wrong in the architecture.

Maybe we're all missing a key complexity of the service. The Archival service might be it.

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jarek 5394 days ago
I'm imagining the full text search of the archive to be a factor, but then again I don't know much about search.
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sramov 5395 days ago
I am not using it personally but administer and maintain a cluster, among other people. Magento is brain dead.

As for high hosting bills, build your own equivalent version and then share your own hosting bill data.

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mibbit 5395 days ago
Well, my own data point is Mibbit. And I can tell you I certainly don't spend that much on hosting.

Still, easy to criticize without knowing the full facts...

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