[dragonwriter]

> The real reason it doesn't qualify, though, is that my HOA—my entire city of ~650 SFH homes exists behind an HOA—has stated it won't approve SB9-related lot splits.

So get together with other homeowners around that and any other dissatisfaction with the HOA and disband it. Or take it over, either way.

[ethbr0]

Put signs in your neighbors' yards listing how much value there is, were their lots to be subdivided. Might get some people thinking before an HOA board election... ;)

[asdff]

It's no secret to homeowners you get money upzoning your parcel in California. They don't care. The whole purpose why somewhere like Ranchos Palos Verdes or wherever else in LA county that fights development and remains a suburban, SFH enclave is because the locals want it that way. They bought in specifically because it was this way. And they will elect officials that fight on their part to preserve it in this way. They don't want to approve split lots in the palos verdes peninsula, that would generate traffic in the peninsula that they don't currently have. They already limit public access to public beachheads as much as possible to nonresidents, over fears of traffic.

[hellbannedguy]

They would probally fine him for the sign.

[prawn]

Do they mean literally putting a sign in someone else's yard, without their permission? Is that a done thing? Wouldn't you just drop a note in their letterbox?

[diordiderot]

IIRC, using a letterbox without a stamp is illegal

[prawn]

Amazing. I live elsewhere in the world so had never heard of that. You are honestly not allowed to put a letter in a friend/neighbour's letterbox? A letter under the doormat then?

[desdiv]

>You are honestly not allowed to put a letter in a friend/neighbour's letterbox?

Yes, that is correct. If you want to hand deliver a note to your nextdoor neighbor, their mailbox is off limits. The federal government views that mailbox as some sort of exclusive domain of the USPS. You can leave the note anywhere, other than their mailbox.

The text of the law is:

>Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.[1]

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1725

(An interesting possibility would be to affix the correct USPS stamp on the note, void said stamp by crossing it out, then hand delivering the note into someone's mailbox. In that case the correct postage would have been paid, so maybe that might be legal? Not a lawyer, just pondering an interesting possibility out loud.)