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by freediver 1624 days ago
> but I can't help but think altogether they're creating a division of the web into premium services the rich can afford

If I may, there is huge complexity at hand here. It is one thing to offer a meditation app for $2/mo, where its peak complexity is changing colors on the screen. It is entire different to be able to offer the entire internet searchable in less than 500ms in the palm of your hand. The ability to offer that at $20-30/mo with robust privacy protection is frankly a miracle.

Second factor, is that Kagi is bootstrapped and our priorities are quality of services offered, not the number of users. And knowing what I know, it is simply not economically viable to do this at a lower price point and hope for sustainability of the business.

Finally, the price is only one side of equation, the other is value. The question is will you be getting enough value for your money? For me, the ability for my children to use a search engine without being bombarded with ads from an early age has a lot of value. I already pay $15/mo for YouTube Premium for the same reason. I understand that not every parent is in this position to choose, but many are.

Having said all that I do not pretend that Kagi is designed to be for everyone, like Google is. It is a premium service for a reason - the cost of providing the quality that we provide is simply what it is, and we clearly said no to the ads from the get-go. Remember that the main reason most of the mainstream web is free are ads.

The ideological consideration you refer to is something I agree with, but that role is on governments to fullfill IMO. I do not think they will anytime soon so I am doing what I can. Access to information like access to water should be part of public infrastructure and we miss the latter in the modern society (as public libraries are not enough anymore). We can easily get into the realm of politics here so I choose to stop :)

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Can you talk about why the price needs to be at the 20-30$ level and what infrastructure and engineering needs to be built / maintained / expanded on to run a search engine?
Here is a simplified example. Bing API is $7/1000 queries. Most users with HN pedigree search 100+ times a day. A single search for an error message can produce 10 follow up searches. That is $21/mo+ just in API cost a month. And we have lot of users hitting 200 queries/day limit (imposed in beta), so they would be hitting $40+/mo in API cost alone when we go live. This is cost without factoring infrastructure costs, other operating costs and salaries.

In order to have a hope of becoming sustainable you need to make a calculation that with a certain number of users you can break even.