[delphinius81]

My first question to any recruiter is "what is the salary range for this position." It's not worth investing my or your time if the range does not work for me. THIS is the reason why posting the range is so important. Withholding the range means that I would be putting in lots of time to interview, only to find out that you were never going to pay me a standard market rate with little benefit. Maybe you'll find some people that are desperate for work that way, since they'll be seeing things as a sunk cost? At the end of the day, you get what you are willing to pay for.

As an applicant, I understand that whatever you put at the low end is what you are going to want to offer me assuming I just minimally pass your bar. To get the higher end requires negotiation. However, if you are willing to pay my x+5, why bother with the games at all? Just make your best offer and let's get things off on the right foot. Why do we need to feel like we each "got the better out of each other?" It also levels the playing field for people that just aren't good at negotiating.

I'm an engineer, not a sales negotiator. What does my ability to argue for a higher salary have to do with my ability to build product. Probably nothing. And if you think this is some coded way of measuring ability to convince people in a discussion, maybe you should explicitly be asking that during your interview process instead.

[SuperCuber]

> Why do we need to feel like we each "got the better out of each other?"

Because both of you are parties in a deal and have your own best interests in mind