[crehn]

Not surprising.

Android software and hardware UX is typically subpar, with very little attention to detail, and things just feel out-of-touch and made by engineers and marketing bots. My hypothesis is all these things contribute to a lack of "coolness" (for lack of better word), which has a tremendous impact on the market.

[ekianjo]

> Android software and hardware UX is typically subpar, with very little attention to detail, and things just feel out-of-touch and made by engineers and marketing bots. My hypothesis all these things contribute to a lack of "coolness" (for lack of better word), which has a tremendous impact on the market.

It goes the other way around as well. If you are used to Android you will be very disappointed by the lack of customization available on iOS. I know I can't stand to use an iphone because of that.

[rsanek]

As a decade long Android user that switched to iPhone when the 13 came out, I was expecting that but I've actually been pleasantly surprised. The new shortcuts app in iOS offers a surprising amount of customizability and scripting. True, you can't replace the entire launcher like with Android, but I've found it to be much less of a difference than I thought.

[notreallyserio]

I thought I'd be disappointed after moving to iOS but it turned out I didn't need as many customizations as I'd thought. The defaults are mostly pretty good.

[MBCook]

Apple has slowly been improving that over the years. You’re right, it’s not to Android levels, but it’s not what it was five years ago when it was totally locked down.

[crate_barre]

I hate to break it to you but it probably has nothing to do with that. We’re talking about a demographic that wants to fit in more than any sycophant humble bragger on LinkedIn. The most likely reason is certain crowds in school have iPhones.

Maybe the broke ass kids have that shoddy cheap Android. That’s like wearing Payless or knock-off sneakers. No, not me, everyone’s got Jordans mom, and the new iPhone dad. It’s almost like you don’t care about me and want me to be seen as a loser in school. Gosh.

[abletonlive]

or you know, people just like the experience of using an iPhone better. is it really that hard to believe?

I'm tired of people shitting over teenagers as if they can't even think at all.

[marticode]

Except that other markets absolutely do not show this level of iPhone market share.

So either American teens are very discerning of UIs, or they just try to fit in within a network of existing iPhone users.

[abletonlive]

And how did this existing network of iPhone users come to be if it was just about fitting in? This is obviously flawed logic.

Why even talk about other markets unless you can control for all of the other variables? The other markets are completely different, there is no market like the US market just like there is no market like the market seen in China or India...or maybe if you think as you do, you should ask the question why teenagers in the US market are more likely to try to "fit in" than other teenagers in other markets...

[smabie]

I mean it's probably a combination of two: iPhones are generally considered better (and I concur with this sentiment) which leads to initial adoption and then everyone else has to have one too.

I mean he'll I'm an adult supposedly and am as susceptible to trends/fashions/being cool as anyone else.

[crehn]

> The most likely reason is certain crowds in school have iPhones.

Why do you think that is?

[crate_barre]

Lol because I’ve been to high school and have once, in a past life, been a teenager.

[crehn]

I mean, why do you think that certain crowd has gravitated to iPhones and not Androids?

[Jensson]

Stuff like this?

https://www.fastcompany.com/90391587/why-we-dont-want-you-an...

Also when the poor kids has cheap androids then kids will associate those with low status. It isn't like kids ask for items from their parents based on very rational reasons, they want the items that the popular kids in school has and avoid the items the poor kids in school has.

[crehn]

That doesn't answer the question why do you think that group initially acquired critical mass enticing others to change?