[perl4ever]

>Yup, at which point it is no longer the manufacturer's problem other than reputationally

I think typically lease returns are sold as [brand] certified used, at least they used to be.

Even if they weren't, you really don't think used car values affect new car prices or lease terms?

BMW seems to do all right despite absurd depreciation and maintenance/repair costs on their used cars, but I think surely there is an extra cost to building cars that are appealing enough to convince customers to be irrational.