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by throwoutway 1633 days ago
That sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen. I’m amazed that hasn’t put an egg on their face. Are their customers complaining about issues?

And how can the risk managers know so much about potential regressions? Are they a panel of former engineers?!

So many questions

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keep in mind that machines like those are so complex that you don't simply buy them and install them.

It's more like getting custom-made artisanal goods: each machine has a "father/mother" from its 'conception' til delivery who treats it as their (work) baby. Then a special plane will fly the machine and a team of dedicated engineers will spend weeks in your fab doing install / validation. The process is long and complex.

Downtime are really painful and expensive so the philosophy is "better copy paste the code rather than change what's working". downtime are not very frequent but people are just the least expensive / worrying thing there. It's not like you can easily start a competitor...

It almost sounds like there should be states funding creation of a competitor simply to prevent the "fire impacts entire global industry" kind of news we're seeing today.
ASML has 16 locations around the globe so while it will have some impact, it could be a lot worse.

https://www.asml.com/en/company/about-asml/locations

Not every location does the same thing though. ASML has bought other companies that were key suppliers to them. Like Berliner Glas Group in 2020 which is located in Berlin and is where the accident happened. No other location of ASML will be able to compensate for production losses there.
a competitor won't be enough, the whole supply chain is made by companies which are single point of failure (the reason why europe can't afford to say "ASML only sell your machines to EU fabs" is that one of the key ASML supplies is US.. and without them no machines...).
Well China is trying are they not? We will probably have to wait another 5-15 years to see the results...
The customers do complain, but they only care about wafer yield and throughput. They will accept any dirty software hack or manual procedure to circumvent issues _now_.