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by detaro 1631 days ago
or you could maybe read the article before looking at its source code for a gotcha?
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or may be we should continue looking for gotchas when it comes to clickbait misleading titles and finally get the message of "clickbait is wrong" across to at least some part of tech blogging community?
Thing is, clickbait works, so people will continue doing it. All your "gotcha" showed was that it works. Look at all the people in this thread engaging with this post, not because of its content but because of its title. If a clickbait title will lead to higher engagement, why would an author not use it?

The best way to combat clickbait is to not fall for it, not play into it, to either ignore the article, or to read the article and discuss or critique the content instead of bringing more attention(all press is good press) to the title.

> Look at all the people in this thread engaging with this post, not because of its content but because of its title.

All I see is a discussion that’s been massively derailed by a shitty title. If it had a sensible title, perhaps people would be talking about the actual concept that the article was trying to tackle instead of threads like this where people keep having to explain that the title doesn’t match the article.

“Engagement” for the sake of engagement is worthless unless you are optimising for noise instead of signal.

My gotcha and the negative reaction to it shows only that the majority of readers are ok w/ using of clickbait titles. That's a pity. Although bringing attention to such things always gets negative reaction in the beginning. Not the reason to stay silent anyway.

> If a clickbait title will lead to higher engagement, why would an author not use it?

Out of intellectual/professional honesty e.g.?

The negative reactions to your post are due to the laziness of not reading the article and the "gotcha".

I think most of us come to Hacker News for interesting discussions, and the torrent of confidently incorrect "this person is wrong" comments is not adding anything to any discussion.

The top comment is already clarifying the title, so any other comment should be unnecessary, especially snarky ones.

The gotcha is another problem in itself: not only it comes from a misunderstanding of the post, a lot of people don't have control over their publishing software, but their advice should be judged on its own merits, not on some "you criticise society yet you participate in it" way [1].

[1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

Funny and arrogant attempt to mask the problem with clickbait-ish title by turning into personal accusations in laziness, referring to memes, speaking for the rest of community, etc. The whole bag of tricks. Not gonna work, sorry. The title is wrong. Go blame the author, not the one calling out the bullshit.
The current title wasn't added by the author, it was editorialized by another person. This is also against the rules, and will probably be changed as soon as dang sees it. The original title might be cheeky, but it makes sense in the context of the post.

By the way, you broke another guideline in your comment: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

Anyway, I'm just explaining why other people flagged you. You can choose to try to understand the rationale for your flag/downvotes. Or you can cover your ears and accuse everyone else of being pro-clickbait.

I mean, the top comment is someone proposing a better title. That's actually adding value to readers, compared to nonsense points that have nothing to do with the article. And that comment already was there when you commented, too.