[the_gastropod]

We’ve been hearing this tune for several years now. Ethereum was originally planned to move to PoS in January 2020. That date was blown and many dates projected since have also been missed. Repeating this “the end is near!” argument in response to very valid concerns about the environmental impact is getting a bit old.

[DennisP]

Yes, I expect to see these "dates have been missed before" comments up to the day it hits production.

There's a big difference between "we have a design worked out and think it will take this long" and "we've been running the new system in production for a year, merging it with the old system is relatively easy, and we've got all the clients running the merge together on a public test network." Historically, anything they've gotten to the point of a multi-client testnet has taken well under a year to go live.

[paulryanrogers]

Did you mean "well over a year"?

[DennisP]

After a multi-client public testnet is running, I mean "under."

[davidgerard]

> Ethereum was originally planned to move to PoS in January 2020.

2018, it's been 18 months away since 2014.