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by fer 1631 days ago
The Marek disease scenario is more a result of massification of poultry industry and the fact that Marek-infected chickens are infectious for life, rather than the vaccination itself. That's several orders of magnitude higher in terms of mutation lottery tickets.

If you're gonna use the ever-classic Marek scenario to push against vaccination, at least use it against the vaccination of a disease that shares some basic characteristics with MD.
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nzmsv 1631 days ago
I'm actually not pushing for anything, and since I wasn't following antivaxxers this is all new to me. I guess this was my 10000 moment for the day (https://xkcd.com/1053/)
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fer 1630 days ago
Congrats on being one of the 10,000!

Sorry if it came off as aggressive, but Marek disease situation is well-loved and ill-interpreted by the antivax crowd, and often brought up even though the similarities between the diseases and their clinical courses alone make them completely incomparable from an epidemiological perspective.

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inter_netuser 1630 days ago
Some quite credible NIH immunologist I know has openly stated that Marek's scenario is very much a valid risk to consider since the very beginning of the pandemic, among many others ofc, including ADE, etc.

Amusingly enough, he also worked on actual mRNA therapeutics for quite some time, in addition to viral delivery vectors in cancer therapeutics. Has a PhD, his h-index is ~15, I think. Triple vaxxed, if you must know his medical status. You should be able to google him rather easily, only 20-40 people in the country that do this.

Looking forward to hear about your credentials.

Remember: science has always been about questioning the dogma. Not the other way around. Criticism and open dissent must be the norm, not something to be scorned and ostracized.

can't believe I'm actually writing this on a technology forum.

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fer 1630 days ago
One of the authors of the 2015 paper[0] on Marek's disease that gave way to the "questioning the dogma" crowd to refuse to vaccinate had to write an article[1] to explain some of what I just said and more.

Since you popped an argumentum ab auctoritate (without even giving a name?), I'd drop that he obviously also has a PhD, and an h-index of 88 which is actually remarkable.

[0]https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/jou...

[1]https://theconversation.com/vaccines-could-affect-how-the-co...

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