[tomohawk]

Interesting what happens when doctors no longer work for you, but can only work for the government monopoly.

[aaomidi]

This is an annoying indirection in this discussion.

Doctors working for everyone also means they work for the highest bidder. Remember the tabaco industry in the US and the doctors literally advertising it?

How about doctors near areas of chemical spills getting $£€¥ from the companies to keep quiet about them?

How about the opioid crisis that has killed thousands of Americans?

Yeah. So, if you want to bring up a misleading example, at least think of the entire cycle of the "other side" of this.

At the end of the day the thing is "interesting what happens when doctors are incentivized with capital and success is measured by how rich you are"

[sudosysgen]

You're right, and the worst is that private clinics and practices are allowed in Canada, and they have no interest in getting involved with this.

[refurb]

There are almost no private clinics in Canada

[mattkrause]

I doubt that's true, and for what its' worth, health care is run by the individual provinces, not the federal government.

At any rate, there are a bunch in Montreal. Here's one: https://www.rocklandmd.com/en/medical-clinic.html Here's another: https://cliniquesmedicaleslacroix.com/en/ You can certainly find more by searching for "[Canadian Place Name] private clinic"

Heck, here's a news article about the Quebec government outsourcing some work to private clinics to clear COVID-related backlogs. For there to be $100M worth of contracts, there must be a decent number of clinics.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/private-clinics-queb...

[sudosysgen]

That is untrue. There are almost a dozen within 30 minutes of where I live.

[refurb]

Please provide links.

Doctors are not able to work in both the public and private systems, they have to choose.

There are a few clinics that provide care entirely outside the public system but since the demand is low they are rare beyond MRI clinics in a few provinces.

But please, send me links to the dozen of private clinics (dont work in the public system) that are 30 mins of where you live.

[sudosysgen]

I'm not going to doxx myself.

Demand used to be low, it is increasing steadily due to mismanagement.

If you don't trust me, type "private clinic toronto" into Google Maps.

[hluska]

This is only news because doctors resist. They’re doing great.

[sudosysgen]

Private clinics and practices exist in large numbers in Canada. Apparently, they aren't interested in helping.

[tomohawk]

Private clinics in Canada are not allowed to provide services provided by the government system.

http://canadian-healthcare.org/page6.html

[sudosysgen]

Nope, that is incorrect. They are allowed to provide services that aren't specifically outlawed. Duplicate care is allowed. For example, from your link:

> For example, obtaining an MRI scan in a hospital could require a waiting period of months, whereas it could be obtained much faster in a private clinic.