[lalaland1125]

The vaccines do protect people. Look at the data. Vaccinated people are like 5-20x less likely to die or get hospitalized.

[bell-cot]

Many people seem to expect "vaccinated" to mean "enjoy utter immunity to". Kinda like some World of EverDungeon video game, where having the Amulet of Foozaz makes you utterly immune to any & all poisons.

Anti-vaxer's love to play up that meme.

A better analogy would be the body armor that Marines wear in combat zones. No Marine is stupid enough to believe that wearing body armor will make him completely immune to bullets. And certainly no Marine is stupid enough to say "I won't wear it, because it doesn't make me completely immune to bullets".

[lenkite]

Well, the definition of vaccine changed late last year after it was found that the Covid vaccinations did not prevent infections.

Definition before late-2020:

"a product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, thereby protecting against that disease",

To

"a preparation used to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific disease".

Now, we are realising that the Covid vaccines are helpless against the new variants, so I guess the definition will be changed even further.

Compared to something like the Smallpox vaccine (lifelong/multi-decade immunity), the Covid vaccine is mostly useless.

[spurgu]

Yup. And besides, it's been clear for a good while now that it boils down to personal protection and keeping hospital capacity at bay. Yet there is so much illogical fear of "antivaxxers/unvaccinated" in the vaccinated crowd.