[azth]

> That wasn't going to happen to my dad, either, and he kept a length of iron pipe at hand to beat the student into letting go of the controls.

That's awesome haha. Hope your dad is well.

[p_l]

The Instructor's Stick is well regarded tradition all over the world.

One problem AF447 faced was that the closest thing to instructor who could whack the panicking pilot returned to cabin too late to fix it...

[WalterBright]

> Hope your dad is well

He is two months older than Betty White! Sadly, he passed at 93. I sorely miss him. But thanks for the kind thoughts, I appreciate them.