[WalterBright]

Interesting comparing this with the 737MAX crashes. There, I regularly get excoriated on HN for suggesting that the pilots not knowing to turn off the stab trim system when it goes haywire is unreasonable, despite it being a "memory item" and despite Emergency Airworthiness Directives reiterating this.

[bumby]

It’s because from a safety standpoint, procedural controls are not preferable to engineered controls. PPE controls are lower still.

It would be like alleviating a motorcycle manufacturer from responsibility of a bad design by claiming riders wouldn’t be hurt if they were wearing all their protective gear. It may be true while also being sub-standard design practice for a safety-critical system.

[MBCook]

Isn’t that exactly what Tesla does? Deflect all autopilot/FSD blame on users because they were supposed to be “in charge“?

[WalterBright]

Exactly? No. Tesla drivers are not trained in emergency procedures. They're not trained at all.

Pilots are.

[GekkePrutser]

Yeah and at the same time marketing it as "Full Self Driving". :x

[jquery]

I made that same point repeatedly, to mixed reception. Boeing is absolutely at fault but the airlines that had crashes were also guilty of cutting corners. Boeing is (rightly) held to a high standard. I try to fly on airlines that have similar high standards for the operations.

[WalterBright]

Of course Boeing shares blame for this. But so do the parts suppliers, the installers of the bad part, and the pilots. All of that had to fail for the crash to happen.