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by leereeves 1636 days ago
> and there are no ICU beds for them

According to the CBC, the lack of available hospital beds pre-dates Covid and exists even when Covid case counts are low. From Why Ontario hospitals are full to bursting, despite few COVID-19 patients:

"The data suggests many hospitals have returned to the overcrowding levels seen before the pandemic, when CBC News revealed hospitals filled beyond capacity nearly every single day, with patients housed in hallways, conference rooms and cafeterias not as exceptional cases, but as a matter of routine.[1]"

It's unfair to scapegoat the unvaccinated for systemic failures that aren't really due to Covid at all.

1: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-hospital-occu...
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throw0101a 1636 days ago
Saying that adding more load to an already overloaded system is fine isn't as helpful to the argument as you think…
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leereeves 1636 days ago
I'm not claiming it's fine. I'm vaccinated and I try to convince others to get vaccinated.

But many people contribute to the problem with a variety of unhealthy life choices, and blaming one particular group for the problem, and writing policies to punish that group (many of whom also happen to be the PM's political opponents), is the worst kind of politics.

And suggesting that the lack of healthcare in Canada is caused by the unvaccinated is simply dishonest.

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throw0101a 1636 days ago
> But many people contribute to the problem with a variety of unhealthy life choices, and blaming one particular group for the problem, and writing policies to punish that group (many of whom also happen to be the PM's political opponents), is the worst kind of politics.

Most other unhealthy life choices are low-moving train wrecks and can be accommodated for: it's not like the obesity and diabetes rates go from 15% to 40% in the span of six months. A good portion people's choices can be accommodated for 'simply' by looking at trend lines and planning accordingly.

> And suggesting that the lack of healthcare in Canada is caused by the unvaccinated is simply dishonest.

Any problems that any healthcare system in the world had were (and are being) exacerbated by the sudden surge of COVID patients. The unvaccinated-by-choice are needlessly making things worse for a whole lot of people who need a hospital/ICU bed through no fault of their won.

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