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by oliverbennett 1630 days ago
A couple of years ago I started to build a tool for my own personal use. It ended up being a metaverse full of sticky notes. I'm currently seeing if there's a market for it outside of just myself - https://www.temin.net/

Give me a shout if you're interested in turning it into something - email is in my profile.

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I've thought of something like this, glad to see its been created. Love it. This is how I 'picture' things in my head so it makes it easy for me to organize. Now only if there was a file explorer like this I'd love to use one.
Thanks, glad you like it!

For organising information Temin has been an entirely positive experience for me. For the first time what's in my head matches what's on a screen.

Early on I expected that mental model to fall over as the amount information in a metaverse grew, but I have ~12,000 sticky notes/pieces of paper in my 'main' metaverse and haven't personally felt the need to add any search functionality yet. I'm honestly not sure if I know where everything is, or just how to get back to it. Speaking to a neuroscientist or similar would be great - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_memory#Current_theories

I'd also be keen to speak to anyone who has thoughts on Temin as a graph, as more recently I've been finding sticky notes mean multiple things and belong in multiple locations. https://temin.co.uk/#links does a rather poor job of explaining my current solution.

This looks fantastic, I'd love to try this.

Regarding your question about why this works : I urge you to read at least the first chapter of Frances Yates The Art of Memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Memory - how people learned to retain vast stores of knowledge before the invention of the printed page.

Please do sign up if you haven't already, or send me an email and I'll get you setup.

Thanks for the book recommendation, I've started to read it. It's nice to get some history and depth to concepts I had some awareness of.

I do wonder how method of loci strategies stand up to bricks and mortar sticky note use in collaborative environments. In my day job I've felt other people moving and adding things to a wall as almost destructive if I didn't experience it happening (purely in terms of memory). As changes in Temin are written to a ledger a fringe benefit is you can play back what's happened while you were gone, which seems to sooth that.

For work, I also spend a lot of time writing/drawing/thinking with a pen, and most of the artefacts in my metaverse are created with a Wacom not a keyboard. Being able to remember where things are I put down to Temin, being able to remember what's there I put down in some part to that. I'm not going to trying to convert people who prefer to use keyboards, and I expect pen-first users will very much be a minority, but the research on retention when it comes to pen vs. keyboard is pretty compelling.

hey Oliver, awesome project, I will definitely try it and I am also interested in developing it further - Miro is breaking new record every month, so totally worth to compete.

Also it could be an interesting intersection between laptop (where you create data and put things to the boards) and VR (where you navigate, process and work with data). I am not sure about MVP, but surely there is so many usecases, starting from personal collection of knowledge to teamwork, project documentations etc.

Nice, I'll reach out to you.

Great insight into the use cases for Temin depending on the I/O. It took me using a desktop and VR headset to form the same opinions. Initially I thought my VR usage would be higher, but it's below 1% of the total time I spend inside Temin. VR is also pretty good for presenting/telepresence.

Mixed reality excites me way more than VR, so I'm keen to skate more towards that technology long-term.

Reminds me of Miro and Mural, there's surely a market for it.
It certainly scratched my personal itch for something that lets you relate/encode/recall information in 3D but also work in 2D.

The primary feedback from friends has been it's cool, but hard to use without much of UI (current version is all shortcut keys). That's something I can fix in the next couple of weeks.

A harder problem is there's a decent chunk of knowledge workers with no experience navigating virtual 3D spaces. If you didn't grow up playing Quake, Minecraft etc you might find Temin frustrating to use for a little while.

Simple in form, it's brilliant. Best of luck to this one.
Very cool!