[Brian_K_White]

You had no point.

Your question implied that no one needs to read mein kompf, thus proving that it's ok to censor it, thus showing that it's ok to censor anything else you don't like.

Since all of those things your attempt at a point stands on are false, the point in fact does not stand.

It's not only wrong, it's unbelivably ignorant.

Perhaps I'm misremembering from so long ago in 1979 or 80, but I feel like they explained the fundamental problems with censorship, including reasoning such as you present, as early as 4th or 5th grade.

That's why I say unbelievably ignorant. How is an adult saying something that a 5th-grader k ows better? I guess literally I can believe that they allow kids to reach adulthood without ever being made to understand something so important, but I sure don't want to.

[dmead]

I think you're being ignorant to the realities of modern communication.

Censorship of libraries and press in the pre-internet era is completely different than preventing new copies of stormfront being shoved down everyone's proverbial throat on a daily basis.

[showerrain]

You keep making these wild associations. Again it has nothing to do with stormfront. Nobody is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

This is about two consenting adults not being able to exchange text messages with each other because the middlemen censors do not approve of the contents.

[dmead]

So what? It's a private company. they also probably censor CP.

I highly, highly doubt that anybody is going to the mat over this unless they believe in banning abortion. No definition of free speech includes what sms middleman can or can't do.

[Brian_K_White]

What does "private company" matter? It doesn't.

And it's not even quite true anyway. The phone system has federal mandates. It's recognized as a piece of infrastructure that that the state has an interest in, and so is not actually 100% free to do whatever it wants in the way that say, BestBuy is. And plain sms is part of that basic telephone service.

But even if they were, legally, free to violate the integrity of the communications they have been entrusted to carry, why in the world are you ok with that?

There are countless things that are legal and wrong, and I see no valid reason not to see something wrong and say "that's wrong".

[dmead]

sir that is a huge pile of nonsense

it entirely matters if it's a private company. this isn't 1995. there is no regulation anymore. you can't compel anyone to transmit whatever hate speech people deem "Free".

so, they are already expected to "violate the integrity of the communications" they handle (whatever that means).

this isn't 'nam, donney. there are rules.

[Brian_K_White]

so tomorrow, it is discovered that fedex and ups are opening all the envelopes, reading the documents, and silently throwing some away. They don't say anything to either sender or receiver. They keep your money, which by the way does not silently fail on them 10% of the time. You are obviously fine with this because they are private companies and you are not an odious hypocrite.

[showerrain]

They are our enemies and deserve it! It will never happen to us, that I am sure.