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by mygoodaccount 1638 days ago
Why was Nord Stream 2's approval delayed by the German government?
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Probably because almost nobody apart from Germany and Russia thinks it's a good idea to have Nord Stream 2
To appease the US.
Who, to be clear, pays for almost all of the defense in NATO. So yes, to appease the US.

Also, it's terrible policy to depend on Putin, which seems obvious to everyone but Germany

How come trade is seen as a peace maker for inside the EU, but not seen as a peace maker when done with Russia?

AFAIK Russia has been a trustworthy gas supplier and it would be economical suicide if they proved not to be trustworthy.

The threat isn't directly to invade Germany. It is to stop Germany from intervening when Russia invade it's neighbor countries. EG if you embargo us or provide Military Support to russian opponents, will shut down the power in Germany and you'll freeze to death. A short-term gas disruption will cause Russia to lose some money, but would be much more dangerous for Germany
Russian gas makes up only 1/3rd of Germany's total amount of imported gas and only because it's cheap. If the Russians really were to turn off the valve, the amount could be made up for with other sources. By far not instantly, but nobody would freeze to death, either.

Germany's alleged dependence on Russian gas is mostly a fairytale of US propaganda.

I'm open to the idea that this is overstated, but would love to see the numbers. Is it 1/3rd now or 10 years from now? Does the alternative supply and import infrastructure have the capacity to provide 30% more on short notice? Alternatively, how long and how well can Germany operate with only 60% imports.
Germany depends on Russian energy as much as Russian depends on Germany's Euros, true.

But during a crisis, which one do you think will collapse first?

1) Germans freezing to death without energy to heat themselves and move their economy

2) Russians drinking vodka

There is trade, and then there is giving a geopolitical rival an "off" switch to a sizable percentage of your energy supply.

Free trade requires easy substitutes to remain "free" and opponents of this plan mostly think that energy markets don't work like that because of high switching costs. Germany can not just spin up new nuclear plants or easily buy electricity from neighbors past a certain amount of it's usage. I don't know enough to know if this angle is correct.

Green points... Gas is not green, thus better not to progress it until absolutely mandatory. On other hand eco-terrorist are also against nuclear so better to get rid of that as well. And electricity comes from wall...
It's actually due to EU regulations but spread your FUD.