[BoiledCabbage]

> It sounds to me like you do get it. Everyone knows you can right-click and save a regular old digital image, and that any copy of that digital image is probably not going to be valued by people.

If they were the case, then Open Sea wouldn't be fighting to ensure they are banned. They'd know they'd just be ignored. The reason why Open Sea wants them banned is because they know that the people will readily substitute them for the others as they are an easily substitutable good - and if they become common/understood/accepted it blows up their business model.

Once again, when push comes to shove, the "decentralization" aspect is shown to be a farce, and it's nothing but a zero-sum money grab.

[vanusa]

One would think that if NFTs "worked" then it wouldn't be necessary to use out-of-band mechanisms to "fight" this kind of duplication.

[tshaddox]

I really am not following this very closely, but I would imagine the reason Open Sea is banning them is that they don’t want people to be deceived because that could harm Open Sea’s reputation.

[BoiledCabbage]

> I would imagine the reason Open Sea is banning them is that they don’t want people to be deceived because that could harm Open Sea’s reputation.

Yes exactly, and now Open Sea is taking on the responsibility of a centralized entity who declares what is legit and what isn't. And they get all of the power and control that comes with it. The antithesis of this supposedly 'decentralized' system.

And with that centralized power soely based on their reputation, and no system of accountability to anyone (except their investors), will come the same conflicts with society (ie 'the community') where someone will add a work that is legit derivitate artwork and Open Sea will ban them and then there will be an uproar about how Open Sea is de-voicing them or de-platforming them just like people do when kicked off of Youtube. And then people will start spaming differnent derivitate works and Open Sea won't be able to manually keep up with it, so they'll automate the process. And then they will add in "Copyright Takedowns" just like any other company. And people will complain about how defi or crypto 'has been corrupted and lost it's ideals', and now it's nothing but another corporate take over. With all the same rules and regulations of the previous sytem. And this isn't some crazy soothsayer prediction, this is blantantly obvious. Just as obvious as people who said "yah they claim the source code is law, but the first time someone important is about to lose a lot of money, they'll throw that aside and find a way to veto what was in the code." And low and behold, almost everytime someone of reasonable importance is about to lose their value due to crypto's decentralized source code is law, groups with power step in and ensure that doesn't happen. Just like in the real world. All of this decentralization/democratization/libertarian fantasy is all just facde. In the end it's just a the veneer to lure people into what is essentially zero sum racetrack betting and centralization.

System's evolve in certain ways. Reputations become entrenched. Power centralizes. Resources are distribued via power laws. Unless a system actively actively it, that is the 'natural' state of the world. Just like humanity at war and murder is a natural state. It takes concerted effort to build and maintain a society free from these things (or reduced).

Democracy is an example of a system that actively fights it, "everyone" has a single vote (not based on their resources). But even with that, unless you continuously actively enforce it, systems still centralize, and resources overwhelm it (as you see with lobbying and other contemporary "influences" on democracy). The point isn't "don't try", the point is that this haphazard thing of crypto/defi/nft that people are claming will someone be for the people, is not, as nobody is actually trying to enforce that. Whenever an issue comes up, it instead people in these communiciaties go towards centralization. Meaning they'll end up with the same centralized systems as in the real world.

But on top of ending up with the same systems as in the real world, there will be an incredible centralization of resources to the 1% of the 1% who will set the new rules of the system. And we'll waste a ton of energy while doing so.

So yes a bit of a rant. But the hyprocracy is just so blantant it's hard to not comment on it.