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by Kessler83 1633 days ago
What part of "I'm not saying you can't get pains from a keyboard" is unclear, would you say?

As you seem to have missed it, the author isn't positioning himself as a dogmatist using the mouse. He is calling Unix users who don't use the mouse dogmatists.
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throw10920 1629 days ago
What part of my comment implies that I didn't read "I'm not saying you can't get pains from a keyboard"? Answer: none of it. Perhaps you should read more carefully yourself before accusing others of not doing so.

> the author isn't positioning himself as a dogmatist using the mouse

I never said that he did.

> He is calling Unix users who don't use the mouse dogmatists

He is not. The actual article reads:

"It seems as though an irrational fear of the mouse dominates amongst Un*x dogmatists".

This observation also isn't relevant to my comment, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.

My point stands - you absolutely are a rebel among Unix-users to use the mouse.

Your mocking statements like "Hahaha, like you are some sort of brave free-thinker for using the mouse!" don't do anything to improve your arguments that are mostly lacking in support.

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daptaq 1633 days ago
> As you seem to have missed it, the author isn't positioning himself as a dogmatist using the mouse. He is calling Unix users who don't use the mouse dogmatists.

Not quite, I want to say is there are Unix dogmatists, that don't use the mouse because of what they think the right way to use a Unix-like system is, not that preferring to use a mouse or not makes you a (Unix) dogmatist.

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Kessler83 1633 days ago
Oh, come on, did you mean to be polemic or not? :) I think it's a hard sell to claim that the article was actually directed at a small, perhaps barely existent, group of Unix users who seem to be either afraid of the mouse (!) or proud not to use it.

I'll rather accept what you said earlier in this thread (the "I wrote this mess ..." post): that you simply meant to be provocative. That's OK in my book, even when it doesn't turn out all that great. Nothing wrong with the rest of the article, either.

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CRConrad 1629 days ago
> I think it's a hard sell to claim that the article was actually directed at a small, perhaps barely existent, group of Unix users who seem to be either afraid of the mouse (!) or proud not to use it.

Good thing then they never said the article was directed at that subset of Unixers. It was only that little provocative starting section that was.

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daptaq 1633 days ago
Ah, I didn't think about it that way, and I understand what you mean, but yes, my polemics were directed at a very specific, rare kind of user that I used to associate with. The reason I call my article a mess is that I don't proof read anything I write, so I just assume there are mistakes all over the place.
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