[BoorishBears]

Then your comment doesn't make sense?

You wrote:

> completely insecure if you are not the only one with the key

What key is shared between you and the manufacturer here? There's signing keys and there's passcodes, which ones are you "not the only one with"?

[zaxbeast]

> BoorishBears - What key is shared between you and the manufacturer here? There's signing keys and there's passcodes, which ones are you "not the only one with"?

because you don't even have the key? not sure where passcodes came from

[BoorishBears]

sigh

> completely insecure if you are not the only one with the key

This implies you are referring to a key that the user has.

What key does the user have?

A passcode? Password?