[dqv]

I don’t get it. I was waiting for you to say “in favor of…” but you never got to that part. Let email die in favor of what? What is the viable alternative?

Not a single messaging app I’ve used comes close to email. And I can’t use one messaging app, I have to have 6! I would be way more willing to move on from email if a solid viable alternative came along. XMPP, for example, is still too ephemeral and barely anyone uses it.

[zaik]

I decided to delete all messaging apps except an email and an XMPP client (Internet Standards instead of proprietary protocols). 90% of my messages are to relatively few people (close friends or family members). For an acceptable messaging experience you just need to get those people on XMPP. The other 10% can still reach me via email or SMS.

[dqv]

I wish I could get people on XMPP, but I just accepted that, to communicate with my family, I need to use iMessage. I've had businesses try to get us to use their closed source communication thing and it just didn't work. Logging on to their weird thing every week or so to communicate with them and having to do any transactional communication manually just isn't really that great.

As far as XMPP for business, there are still things I really appreciate about email - threading/subjects to isolate different interactions being one. I would still love to be able to have it as a tool for bvb comms. Email is a very nice archival tool for both correspondence and documents. It's one of the few things in my life that is mostly organized and gives me easy access to things I need. Recently someone from a government agency said "you never sent x document" and I was able to go back in my email and say "yes I did on this date, I will send it to you again".

[_8j50]

How can there be a replacement if we can't even acknowledge the problem. Did you see how many people disliked what I said? Should there be solutions awaiting people's recognition of the problem? I remember similar sentiment a decade ago when I was saying similar things about https.

[aero-glide2]

I was suprised to learn WhatsApp uses XMPP. Would be nice if all popular chat applications are interoperable.

[BlueTemplar]

"Is based on" rather than "uses" - AFAIK they deliberately broke compatibility ?

(Ditto with Facebook Messenger and at least one of the Google chats ?)

[pmlnr]

FB uses MQTT; Google chats, who knows.