[maceurt]

I am against any large scale collection of data that can be used to take away an individual's privacy or to assist a government/business/person's ability to track someone's location or residence. Its one thing to not be able to do anything about a private business collecting this information on their own volition, but its another to actually aid in its collection yourself. The more you accept and buy into this reality the faster it will accelerate out of control with opposition being not just those who stand to gain from its existence, but from useful idiots who don't understand sunk cost fallacy. The biggest hindrance in the long term happiness of the human species is the inability to reverse change. Even while we can admit a certain change is bad, we can never mitigate further change let alone put the cat back in the bag.

[throw8932894]

Privacy ship has sailed long time ago. Try to remove license plates from your car. Or refuse to share information about your health!

Now it is about gate keeping. Young people and startups, need the same ability as govs and established players. Until recently you could not even embed maps on your website (too expensive). Free data are levelling the playing field.

And if anything OpenStreetMap helps me not to share my location. I can store map of entire continent offline on my phone, and do not have to ask remote servers for navigation!

[maceurt]

If we created a change we can un-create it. People who just accept that we are powerless to our past are the architects of our future hell.

> I can store map of entire continent offline on my phone, and do not have to ask remote servers for navigation!

The fact that you think anybody would need to have that is ridiculous. And also I can store an entire map of pretty much any place I need to go to and it doesn't require a phone.... Furthermore, maps are only necessary in over bloated cities not designed with facilitating humans as the main objective. Just because that is where most people live nonetheless does not make it any more right.

[betwixthewires]

I need to store the map of the entire US locally on my phone, because often, where I want to go has no service because where I go is very, very rural. If I were to do this with paper maps it would cost me hundreds of dollars. As a bonus, I can overlay the map with USGS GIS data and see all sorts of information about where I'm going, again, stored locally on my phone. I can tell you right now in about 30 seconds what federal or state agency manages any GPS coordinate and how to get there in a car, and if I need information like that, which I do, I can get it in the middle of the grand canyon a hundred miles from the nearest cell tower.

People do need it. You're dismissing very, very powerful tools just to complain that your city isn't walkable, forgetting that some of us don't live anywhere remotely resembling a city at all. There's a whole world out here man.