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by rvense 1636 days ago
Do you understand how invasive it feels to be asked for a phone number?
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I think this is a generation gap thing. Most people under 30 don’t call or text anyway, so a phone number feels like pretty useless and low priority personal information.
I don't call or text much, but I don't appreciate how phone numbers cost money and are intrinsically tied to your personal identity (unless you're an adult and spend time and money shopping for burner phones), whereas email addresses and Matrix accounts are permissionless.
The phone number being tied to your identity is the entire point. If you get banned from a community are you really going to go to Verizon and ask for a new one every time you want to join again? The alternative is the kind of problem that is all too common on IRC where a troll keeps making burner accounts faster than the mods can ban them and generally ruining the experience for everyone else in the channel.
I'm under 20 and still share the same opinions with most in this thread. I don't give out my phone number unless I'm talking to you in person.
… you really think most people under 30 don’t text?
Not via SMS in my experience, no.
Your experience is a bubble, and a very different claim than "most people under 30 don't text"
I imagine this is geographic. Texts are quite expensive in some places, and that means people use alternatives instead. Also some people had pervasive mobile phone usage for a long time before smartphones made other options available, which I imagine would add to their popularity. Here in Denmark SMS is very entrenched, but I know it varies in other countries.
I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to SMS by context given that other forms of texting don’t require a phone number
For most people, not really?

Plenty of apps require it now, and I wouldn't be surprised if it overtook email as the standard verifier.

As a multi-time victim of SIM swaps and even a related SWATing, I sure as hell hope not.
Then don't use the service...