[eitland]

Good points.

I'm still not convinced it is worth everything we lost:

- Instant loading

- Sane page sizes

- Cross browser compatibility by default, including text based browsers

- Every page is reasonably safe by default

- CPU is idle after initial page load

- Battery life is great by default

and probably a few more.

I guess a good middle road might exist but I wonder if the current situation doesn't mostly serve ad pushers and bored developers ;-)

Edits: yes, a number to clarify my points and to make it clear that I am open to change my views, at least slightly.

[vbo]

Agree on all counts except instant loading, you can still do server-side rendering (from the same codebase as the client) and have the client library bootstrap/hydrate its state from it.