[jonahx]

Not a downvoter but...

> Pontificating about how they should just change their notion of right misses it completely.

The ask isn't to change their notion of right, but to understand that (yes, sadly) there is a tradeoff between "usable but ugly system components" and "pretty but janky" bespoke components, and they're making the wrong choice.

[Shacklz]

> they're making the wrong choice.

If what feels like the vast majority of them are making the same "wrong" choice, we should probably think about ways to make that choice more "right", because clearly, the current approach isn't working

[Spivak]

This is my approach. To me the ask for custom components from designers is extremely reasonable. The fact that it’s so hard to get all the edge cases right on the web is a failing of the tooling not the ask.

At some point we have to climb out of the trenches and introspect why the most treaded path in web design is the one with the rickety bridge and spike pits when we the software engineers are the ones who lay the bricks.

[bmeski]

It’s not a failing of the tooling. It’s a failing of designers and product to understand what a web page is and what an application is.

If youve only designed/“Ideated” for iOS or Android, you have no business designing for web. Entirely different platform with different capabilities.

Embrace reality and build simple effective products. Literally no one gives a shit about the arrows on your carousel or the border radius animation on a button. I just want to scroll and click and open new tabs.