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by Pxtl 1639 days ago
Related: Cities Aren't Loud, Cars are Loud

https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8

4 comments

Correction. Internal combustion engines are loud.
It's been a long time since I watched that video, but I believe he makes the point that actually even electric cars are quite loud at speed. The noise from the tires is substantial.
Also different from background noise levels but car horns and alarms are a hugely disruptive source of noise.
car alarms should be illegal. do they really help anything?
No, as someone who used to live next to an expressway (45-50 mph traffic), the problem is 95% tire noise. Modern cars not accelerating make very little noise from the ICE.

The tires are like nails on a chalkboard to me after living that way for a 5 years. It cut through my apartment walls and morning rush hour served as a mandatory alarm clock.

The only time engines were an issue were people with modded exhaust or people street racing (motorcycles or cars).

This is why I always think it is funny when the topic of creating fake engine noise for electric cars for safety comes up. On a normal modern car you won’t likely hear the engine unless under heavy acceleration.
The tire sounds are way less at low speeds. Where the sound matters for safety is where people are and around corners and situational changes. These moments tend to be where speed is Low and varying. As well of the type of sound. If you hear a revving engine come towards your direction you pay it attention.

This is why it is useful for cars to make sounds. It also is the reason why that sound is so annoying. It is a constant trigger for our brains to react.

Why are you correcting a video you didn't watch? Give it the 17min. You'll learn more about this topic.
nah tires are quite loud
People with subwoofers in apartment buildings are pretty loud too.
Much smaller population of apartments with loud speaker systems than cars driving in the city and even honking.

Cars are the biggest source of pollution in US cities, noise, particulate and visual. The early days of the pandemic in almost any city showed this so clearly.

I lived between a freeway and a railroad track. There's no comparison. Cars are a little annoying; trains overpower your entire body. It is a visceral presence.
People are loud. If you don’t like noise, cities might not be for you.
You did not watch the video.

Video is specifically the claim that cities CAN be quiet, and it gives examples of quiet, dense cities. The title is "Cities aren't loud, cars are loud."

Watch it. You will learn something.