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by lmm 1639 days ago
> Where's the "hard dependency on libc" list?

There are multiple libc implementations. libc independence is important and valuable. You'll probably find a "hard dependency on glibc" list in the documentation of e.g. Alpine.

> Or "hard dependency on Bash"?

Ubuntu will have a list from when they switched to ash as /bin/sh. Again, multiple implementations and independence are important, and something the linux community generally cares about.
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IshKebab 1637 days ago
> There are multiple libc implementations

You could make another SystemD implementation if you really wanted. The point is that there are plenty of APIs - even ones with a single implementation - that nobody bats an eye about programs having a "hard dependency" on, but suddenly for SystemD it's apparently a big issue?

It's bullshit technical excuses to hide the real reasons people object to SystemD, which are more embarrassing.

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lmm 1637 days ago
> You could make another SystemD implementation if you really wanted.

No you can't, because they don't offer stable interfaces as a matter of deliberate policy.

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IshKebab 1637 days ago
That seems to be completely untrue: https://systemd.io/PORTABILITY_AND_STABILITY/
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lmm 1636 days ago
That's changed then, now that the competition has been killed off; at the time certainly logind and the cgroup integration had no stable interface.
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