[sgaduuw]

Since all software has bugs, that doesn't make it a new problem now does it?

[gorgoiler]

”All software has bugs, but some are more buggy than others.”

Systemd is exceptionally voluminous, fast moving, feature-laden (which is part of why it is so exciting to so many people), and buggy.

[bayindirh]

systemd had way more bugs and crinkles for an init system when it first started, and an init system is critical software.

[1_player]

Everything is buggy the newer it is, your point being?

Linux itself was mostly unusable when it first started. And a kernel is even more important.

[bayindirh]

> Everything is buggy the newer it is, your point being?

There's a distinction between labeling it as a hobby project and something ready for production.

Linux started as a hobby OS, and being buggy is OK in that regard.

systemd is way more buggy than it should when it's deemed production ready. This is my point.

I'm using Linux for a long time, and I know the meanings of unstable, buggy and experimental; as well as production ready.

I don't hate or I'm not against systemd, I'm against the attitude behind it.