[mthoms]

>We discuss that. That was viewed as a western media propaganda. I.e., no hard proof from any reputable organizations (UN for example).

United Nations statement titled "China: UN experts deeply concerned by alleged detention, forced labour of Uyghurs" https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?N...

Statement from 43 countries presented at UN "Joint statement on human rights situation in Xinjiang at 47th Session of UN Human Rights Council" https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_re...

Amnesty International says "China: Draconian repression of Muslims in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconi...

Human Rights Watch article "China’s Weak Excuse to Block Investigations in Xinjiang" https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/03/25/chinas-weak-excuse-block...

Another report titled "First independent report into Xinjiang genocide allegations claims evidence of Beijing's 'intent to destroy' Uyghur people" https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/09/asia/china-uyghurs-xinjiang-g...

>The lies can go on for a while, but they cannot last forever...

Indeed.

[star-trek-fleet]

I have friends visiting Xinjiang and talked with local people, Uyghur and non Uyghurs. There is no evidence that supports the 1M number. You can watch a lot of YouTube video of people visiting Xinjiang and the local people. Make your own judgement.

[mthoms]

You're changing the criteria?

>We discuss that. That was viewed as a western media propaganda. I.e., no hard proof from any reputable organizations (UN for example).

In response to that comment, I linked reports from the United Nations, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Those are 3 of the most reputable organizations in the world in the field of human rights (the links also point out that it's impossible to investigate thoroughly because the Chinese Government won't allow access).

I'm supposed to believe some random Youtuber over them? That's what you're telling me? That's especially hilarious because the very article we're discussing is about manipulating social media, including creating videos specifically for youtube.

Or are you nitpicking the 1M number? If it's 10,000 or 1 million it's still a gross violation of human rights.

[justicezyx]

They are allegations based on western media reports, which themselves are based on dubious evidences.

Everything so far regarding Xinjiang are all one-sided news rehashing from a few individuals, while the US intelligence with its cutting-edge spy satellites, field agents, cannot find any concrete evidences. Just coincidence?

[matt123456789]

The Liberian Ministry of Agriculture hasn’t presented any evidence publicly, either. And there’s no mention of it in the Beatles’ 1969 album Abbey Road. I guess you would like to enter these facts into the record as well.

You don’t get to pick and choose the evidence that is presented against you. Evidence that you have failed to explain beyond claiming a grand “media conspiracy”. This is textbook misdirection.

[justicezyx]

> Evidence that you have failed to explain beyond claiming a grand “media conspiracy”. This is textbook misdirection.

No, the original evidences from Adrian and some Australian reports were througly debunked by normal youtuber like Daniel Dumbril

https://youtu.be/E00Xtf2ITzU

https://youtu.be/67pU0Ybovnc