[eropple]

If you want to make "the obese" "pay for their externalities", I do hope you have a fantastic plan in place to break the backs of the Nabiscos of the world who literally-not-figuratively design for habituation and drum their marketing into every place they can.

The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".

[fortran77]

> The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".

I tend to think adults are capable of being responsible for their own decisions, including how much to eat.

[eropple]

The reality of food scientists designing these things to feel good and to habituate in a world of constant stress with few affordable and time-permitting outlets is a pretty obvious problem with this sort of claim. So is the fact that these bastards push to kids, and a reasonable person might find it a little odd that, at best and most generously, you want to punish people for the outcomes of inadequate parenting.

But it's much easier to blame fat people than the pushers, and it feels so much more satisfying to break out the hauteur about them as opposed to the businesses that tech people with tech salaries might someday seek to emulate, so--I guess I get it.