[lern_too_spel]

You're confusing civics with history. We absolutely do expect teachers to teach students how to get along with others and how to regulate their emotions to be productive contributors to society. What, specifically, is the radical subjectivism of LGBTQIA+ groups that you object to that the article says is happening in schools? What I see is teachers suggesting students get involved in Gay-Straight Alliance groups to help their fellow students.

Your comparison to teachers encouraging students to join a Bible club doesn't fit because that is illegal.

[CodeGlitch]

> What, specifically, is the radical subjectivism of LGBTQIA+ groups that you object to

There have now been numerous cases of children having been encouraged to have a sex change and now deeply regret the decision. Not to mention they are now infertile.

As an adult, do what you like, but I find groups such as Mermaids to be borderline abusive.

[lern_too_spel]

You left out the second half of the question including the question mark. Nowhere does the article say that what you claim is actually happening. Instead, it talks about encouraging students to join a Gay Straight Alliance club if they show interest in helping gays, and the city, the author, and several misguided people in this forum are freaking out about that.

[andreskytt]

The article clearly says, though, that (a) there is a secrecy around what goes on in these clubs and (b) the people running the clubs are activists. This means, that people with unclear qualifications and goals do things with my child nobody else has visibility into. This might be fine. This might even be desirable if I’m not fine with it. But it _can_ go horribly wrong very easily because of lack of any systemic control over who these people are, what agendas are they following and what’s actually happening.

[kelseyfrog]

What do you think their agenda is? /gen

[woobilicious]

> You're confusing civics with history.

We don't have a civics class where I'm from.

> What, specifically, is the radical subjectivism of LGBTQIA+ groups that you object to that the article says is happening in schools?

Well the article doesn't say because that's not the focus of it.

If we ignore the explicit requirement for it being included in the article, And look at what's happening in wider society.

There are two such notable cases, the shaming of J. K. Rowling, for daring to base gender on biology, and not just subjective feelings.

the 2020 Toyko Olympics inclusion of Trans-women, who very clearly have an advantage because of their male physiology.

So it wouldn't be surprising if these alliance groups were pretty radically deep in to the subjectivism, since it's already being institutionalized in places like the IOC.

I don't see grade 6, a time where 99% of students haven't even hit puberty, mixed with secretive practices, a good sign for things to come, if teachers were promoting any sort of political club to my 12 year old child I would be very worried.

[lern_too_spel]

Well we do have civics classes in California and Socio-Emotional Learning in elementary school.

The article doesn't say because it isn't happening. If it were happening, that would be the subject of the article.

Your comments about wider society, which have nothing to do with the article, shows that you have some very mistaken beliefs about trans people. To get at the heart of your mistake, if people could physically change their gender in a way that had all of their sexual organs working, would you object to them identifying as their new gender? That is ultimately what trans people would like to do.

The physiological differences between men and women that matter are due to development driven by testosterone. East Germany famously increased testosterone levels of women to help them win, but some women naturally have far more testosterone than others. The Olympics now requires those women to medically reduce their testosterone levels, just the same as trans athletes.

This "political club" simply brings gay and non-gay people together to fix society. Would you have objected to a black-white alliance club in the 60s?