[masterof0]

> You cannot transfer money out of country legally, pretty soon can't invest in other countries's stocks. Not true.

> You should not get rich (1/3 of billionaires have died or disappeared) Also not true. FuErDais are praise on TV, movies, etc... Crazy Rich Asians , the movie , was a huge hit in China for example, etc... Money and superficiality have always being huge in China (even to get married, you need to buy a house , a car, and give the girl's family money (CaiLi)). > You have to work 9-9-6. Which is why many citizens are lying flat Highly depends on where you work. But is not standarized, and there have been recently a huge push back from the goverment about this. > You cannot go beyond China's intranet Literally that's what VPNs are for, many chinese companies offer VPN services to mainland users, etc.

All other points are more or less right. Also, p*rn is illegal in most places. I wouldn't live there, but posting lies here wont help anyone.

[chunghuaming]

> You cannot transfer money out of country legally

True. It used to be 50k limit per year. Now because many bureaucratic procedures by banks, it might as well as be zero since you have go to the bank 10+ times. You're talking from a view of a foreigner. I'm talking from a view of native citizen.

> Money and superficiality have always being huge in China

Not so right now which is what I mentioned.

China bars celebrities from showing off wealth and 'extravagant pleasure' on social media

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-bans-celebs-from-showi...

> there have been recently a huge push back from the goverment about this.

Doesn't mean anything has changed. Just lip service.

> You cannot go beyond China's intranet

Of course I know about VPN. However, The official stance of the Chinese government is that the use of VPNs is prohibited except in strictly defined cases. https://review42.com/resources/are-vpns-legal-in-china/

[masterof0]

> True. It used to be 50k limit per year. Now because many bureaucratic procedures by banks, it might as well as be zero since you have go to the bank 10+ times. You're talking from a view of a foreigner. I'm talking from a view of native citizen.

Not true, I (and my wife) use our personal accounts to send money back and forth almost every week, so the thousands of chinese students, workers, etc...

[Cederfjard]

What do you mean when you say porn is illegal in most places?

[masterof0]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region

[Cederfjard]

Fair enough, I haven’t figured out the exact breakdown from that link, although it seems fairly equally split to me.

Still, that map lends credence to my initial gut feeling, that defending China’s porn ban to someone with a seemingly Western perspective by saying it’s banned in a lot of other places too probably isn’t very effective - they most likely feel the same about these laws where they exist in the rest of Asia, Eastern Europe and in Africa, too. Presumably they’re comparing China to Western Europe and the US here.

[masterof0]

Oh no , I like p*rn, definitely not defending any ban, I wish all countries legalize it.