[wpietri]

> IF something is making money it is providing some value.

That's provably false (and a regrettably common belief). Bernie Madoff made buckets of money. Magnetic healing bracelets make money. Psychic surgeons and Nigerian scam artists and spammers make money.

[hessenwolf]

You are talking about fraud, though, for Bernie, scam artists, and possibly spammers. In those cases they are supposed to add value.

Magnetic healing bracelets, well, we all know they work.