[FpUser]

>"Maybe they are getting tired of arrogant older programmers..."

And this is of course valid reason to ignore basic data preservation approaches.

Myself I am an old fart and I realize that I am too independent / cautious. But I see way too many young programmers who just read sales pitch and honestly believe that once data is on Amazon/Azure/Google it is automatically safe, their apps are automatically scalable, etc. etc.

[smiths1999]

Yes - the point of that line was to be ridiculous. Age has nothing to do with it. Anyone at any age can have good ideas and bad ideas. There are some really incredibly _older_ and highly experienced engineers out there. But there are others that think that experience means they are never wrong. Age has nothing to do with this - what is important is your past experience, your understanding of the problem and then context of the problem, and how you work with your team.

And again, my point isn't that you never need backups. My point is that it is entirely plausible that at that point in time backups from S3 weren't a priority.