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by dijit 1638 days ago
forgive me repeating myself: AWS Zones are not truly independent of each other.

Global services such as route53, Cognito, the default cloud console and Cloudfront are managed out of US-East-1.

If us-east-1 is unavailable, as is commonly the case, and you depend on those systems, you are also down.

it does not matter if you're in timbuktu-1, you are dead in the water.

it is a myth that amazon availability zones are truly independent.

please stop blaming the victim, because you can do everything right and still fail if you are not aware of this; and you are perpetuating that unawareness.
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autosharp 1638 days ago
Of course that depends on what services you use and yes, even then there is some remaining correlation just because it is the same host.

> are not truly independent of each other

Indeed. They are even on the same planet!

> please stop blaming the victim

Excuse me?

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dijit 1638 days ago
>> are not truly independent of each other

> Indeed. They are even on the same planet!

Clever bastard, aren't you.

>> please stop blaming the victim

> Excuse me?

"If you're affected by us-east-1 outages then you're not hosting in other regions and you're doing it wrong".

Except: You can be affected by this outage if you did everything right. You're putting blame on people being down for not being hosted in different regions when it would not help them. You've effectively shifted blame away from Amazon and onto the person who cannot control their uptime by doing what you said.

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autosharp 1638 days ago
> "If you're affected by us-east-1 outages then you're not hosting in other regions and you're doing it wrong".

You are attributing a quote to me which I never expressed, nor was that expressed elsewhere in this thread. You are even using quotation marks....

I certainly didn't mean to blame anyone. You appear to see this AWS issue as one of victims and victimizers. I was just trying to point out an agency that people may have in some situations.

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dijit 1638 days ago
I was not quoting you, I was echoing your sentiment back to you with different words to see if you disagreed with it.

I was just re-wording the sentiment.

Let me quote you properly.

> Also, you can just take two different amazon regions and hope they don't both go down at the same time.

Do you see how replacing that in my comments does not change the sentiment?

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