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- Finder

- Applications not actually being terminated when clicking on the close icon

- lagging / unreliable context menu opening with middle-index-finger on apps in dock bar

- the concept of installing something by moving it from an icon on the left to an icon on the right

- or when you can't start apps due to connectivity issues

- app removal is totally opaque and sometimes requires to download a custom uninstallation tool (adobe creative cloud f.x.)

[usui]

Huh? These just sound like grievances that a user used to Windows will have when moving from Windows to macOS, but at that point it's about what you're used to, not what is inherently bad about the design.

Explorer is much worse (drives? Still can't really understand Windows file systems to this day). Sending an app to Applications/wastebin for install/uninstall is (arguable) more visually intuitive for a layperson than an install/uninstall script that most people just click "Next" without reading any of the instructions. The concept of applications having multiple windows is an OS-level thing to get used to.

[pdpi]

Windows conflates windows and applications, macOS doesn’t. It’s a mental model thing, I personally like the Mac version better — closing the last window doesn’t have a special case behaviour, and it plays nicer with things like Spotify or Discord that you want running continuously and don’t want to close the whole application inadvertently.

Not sure what you mean about lagging context menu?

[Duckton]

I find finder more productive than explorer.

I love the fact that clicking the close icon of a window doesn’t terminate the application

Haven’t experienced this, not sure what you are referring to.

Also something I like. The fact that an installation is just moving an executable, is to me, superior to an entire process with regedit and what not.

As I said somewhere below, it might just come down to what one is used to and not objective facts.

[2-718-281-828]

> I love the fact that clicking the close icon of a window doesn’t terminate the application

what is the difference then between closing and minimizing?

[Duckton]

I minimise when I want to get the content, fx a VS code workspace, out of the way to retrieve it later.

Close is when I am done with that particular window/workspace.

Command+Q is when I’m done working in VS code entirely.

[kergonath]

> what is the difference then between closing and minimizing?

Closing is putting away, as in “I don’t think I’ll need it in the near future”, and minimising is putting aside as in “I’ll probably come back to this in 5 minutes”. The minimised window is not cluttering the screen but still accessible from the dock and list of open windows in its application. This is not related to the problem you claimed to have with an application being still open without having a single window.

[KptMarchewa]

>app removal is totally opaque and sometimes requires to download a custom uninstallation tool (adobe creative cloud f.x.)

I mean, maybe, but you're comparing it with Windows that never had anything other than custom uninstallers that leave garbage all over your file system. Windows is 10x worse here.

[prometheon1]

- There is a both a three-finger-click action and a "hard" click action on the touchpad, both of these can't be set to do a "middle click". You have to buy an app in order to be able to middle click with your mouse! (To open links in new tab or close tabs) - Trying to tweak small problems like the one above often leads to things that look like a great solution but 9 out of 10 are github repos that have not been updated in 10 years and don't work anymore - The recommended way of using only your external display (if you still want to use the keyboard and touchpad) is to mirror the displays and then set the screen brightness to zero

But when I was on Windows I was even more unhappy. I wish Linux had first-class support by more apps.