[georgieporgie]

government is immoral. Government is therefore a criminal organization

Well, the simplest of the logic errors there is that one. Immoral does not equal illegal. I'm not even going to get into the fact that it's not always wrong to force people to do things.

[Astrohacker]

> Immoral does not equal illegal.

I meant criminal as in immoral, not as in illegal. Obviously the government is going to declare its taxes legal.

> I'm not even going to get into the fact that it's not always wrong to force people to do things.

There are cases where it's OK to force people to do stuff, just like there are cases where it's OK to kill someone. But those cases are rare. Government employs force beyond those rare moral cases, and is therefore immoral.

[georgieporgie]

I meant criminal as in immoral, not as in illegal.

That's not what criminal means. Except in the sense of "deplorable and shocking" criminal means "of or relating to a crime." Crime means "An action or omission that constitutes an offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law". Crime has one non-legal definition, "An action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be evil, shameful, or wrong" but that's the sense applied to, for example, Apartheid, not to organized crime.

But those cases are rare.

No they aren't. I put a fence around my property to force people to go around it. It works 24x7x365. If people choose to circumvent that fence, I will personally force them to leave my property. This will happen precisely as often as people choose to bypass my fence.