[legerdemain]

It wasn't "involuntary," no one forced me into taking the shower.

[cpach]

Have you ever had the experience of immersing yourself into a cold lake?

[legerdemain]

Cold water is cold water, no?

[cpach]

In my humble opinion: No.

The experience of cold water from a faucet is very different from the experience of a cold lake.

You cannot get submerged via a faucet.

[snvzz]

But you can if you use the faucet to fill a bathtub.

[cpach]

I wouldn’t say that solution is anything near the lake experience.

[snvzz]

it was about being submerged. Now you're moving the goalposts.

You'll of course only get the lake experience in a lake. But you won't get the bathtub experience in a lake, either.