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by eatYourFood 1636 days ago
And the clients aren’t to blame? Some will force waterfall on you then change their minds on requirements, am I a charity that just gives work away for free when they change their mind?

Many large companies absolutely refuse agile delivery and require fixed scope and cost to get anything done.
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wpietri 1635 days ago
How quickly we go from, "Clients should pay for value" to "fuck the clients, they deserve to get cheated".

Yes, waterfall is a bad choice. But no, clients aren't to blame for trusting a vendor to do right by them.

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eatYourFood 1635 days ago
> "fuck the clients, they deserve to get cheated".

Why use quotation marks for something I didn't say? Nothing I've said means "fuck the clients" unless you are maliciously taking the worst possible interpretation.

A change that takes a massive amount of time and effort isn't something I should do for free.

I'm more than happy to build a backlog, refine it, and build until there's a RC... so few enterprise clients want to subscribe to the perceived risk, they'd rather spend months specifying everything upfront to make some senior person happy whether that delivery methodology has been proven to work or not.

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wpietri 1634 days ago
Yes, I was paraphrasing. We both know you didn't say those exact words, so I thought you'd figure it out. Hopefully now you can.
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