[aantix]

Take Rails 7 with Turbo. Start with the Jumpstart Pro template. You’ll feel like a god.

https://jumpstartrails.com/

Finally, all of the boilerplate and over-engineered components are gone.

You’re finally free to solve the just business problems. And you’ll be fighting integration issues a whole lot less.

I have no idea why any saas based startup, whether it’s one person or VC backed, would start with anything less.

The day will come when a small team IPOs with this stack. It's just that productive.

[KronisLV]

From: https://jumpstartrails.com/pricing

> Pricing Plans

> Simple, straightforward pricing to get your online business up and running

> Rails Single Site - Build one application with Jumpstart Pro - $249 /year

> Rails Unlimited - Build unlimited apps with Jumpstart Pro - $749 /year

Might be useful to be aware of the commercial nature of the project, not that it's a bad thing in of itself, just not accessible to everyone.

The features list is promising, though: https://jumpstartrails.com/#features

[aantix]

With any software, if it's inaccessible because of pricing and your circumstances, definitely reach out to the authors and explain your situation.

You will only get in life what you ask for.

They may say no, but you owe it to yourself to try.

[rognjen]

I am very put off by the fact that the template is a yearly sub.

[aantix]

I guess we’ll agree to disagree on the sentiment.

Software maintenance never ends. And programmers just like every one else, need to eat.

Assuming even a modest $50/hr rate, you’d chew through $250 just trying to get the team invite functionality working, let alone the other 15 features.

You’re worth $250 a year for something that will make you a happier engineer.

Why burn nights and weekends implementing api tokens or 2fa or user invites when it gives you zero competitive advantage and you could pay $250 and all of that is provided for you?

Spend your dev time where you bring the most value.

You’re worth it. Your ideas are worth it. Be kind to yourself.

[rognjen]

I don't disagree with the amount, that largely depends on how useful you find the features.

I disagree with the subscription part.

[aantix]

How can engineers maintain software indefinitely for a fixed price?

I doubt you’d accept a fixed bid project and agree to bug fixes for another ten years.

I don’t think that’s a fair trade.

[rognjen]

That's exactly the point because it's a template. I'll likely have value from it once so I'd expect to pay for it once, especially since I'd be allowed to use it on one site.

The fact that they continue to improve it doesn't matter to me because I'd not use it again.

It's basically a theme. I'd equally not pay for a theme on a sub.

Re: fixed bids and bugs, ten years is an exaggeration. A one year warranty, on the other hand, is pretty much expected.

[aantix]

If my time, your time, Chris’s time is going to be occupied, compensation is normal.

Software comes with bug fixes, dependency upgrades, support, infrastructure. All of this takes someone’s time. Which should be compensated.

I can’t argue about pennies anymore. It’s a good value.

[digianarchist]

Bullet Train is a one time fee: https://bullettrain.co

I'm not affiliated or even a user.

[andrei_says_]

I’d love to use this template but absolutely cannot stand tailwindcss.

[aantix]

What would you use instead?

[seandavidfisher]

Looks great. Does anyone know of similar products in other languages? I’m particularly interested in a C# equivalent.